In the Wild with Renée Warren: Business, Bravery, and the Pink Skirt Project

In this powerful episode, I sit down with award-winning entrepreneur, angel investor, speaker, and podcast host Renée Warren. We dive into her journey as a fearless female founder, her mission to help women redefine success on their own terms, and the story behind her movement, The Pink Skirt Project. Renée shares raw wisdom about entrepreneurship, motherhood, and how to stay aligned while growing a business that lights your soul on fire. If you’re ready to expand, show up boldly, and be surrounded by women who truly get it—you’ll want to hit play on this one.

🎙️ We talk about:

• Letting go of old definitions of success
• Creating meaningful community and collaboration
• Why sharing your story is your superpower
• Balancing ambition, motherhood, and impact
• How Renée is using her voice and vision to amplify others

When Renee is not amplifying women's voices, you'll find her crushing a workout, traveling the world, and enjoying adventures with her husband, Dan Martell, and their Irish Twin sons. To learn more, visit www.thepinkskirtproject.com and the links below.

https:/www.thepinkskirtproject.com

https://www.instagram.com/renee_warren

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/into-the-wild/id1508734916

Transcript

 welcome back to the podcast. I'm so excited for today's guest, Renee Warren. She's an award-winning entrepreneur, angel investor, speaker, and author, with an extraordinary gift for recognizing and bringing out the greatness in others as the host of the celebrated show into the Wild.

Business Podcast ranked in the top 1% globally. She delivers powerful solo insights and curates in-depth conversations with female entrepreneurs that inspire action and change. After years of envisioning a transformative space for ambitious women, she brought the Pink Skirt Project to life. An immersive gathering where women redefine success on their terms, surrounded by an electric community of cheerleaders and collaborators, drawing from over 25 years of entrepreneurial experience, including building and selling agencies.

Renee is known for her magnetic energy and fearless pursuit of what's. Possible. When she's not amplifying women's voices, you'll find her crushing a workout, traveling the world, and enjoying adventures with her husband, Dan Martel and their Irish twin sons. To learn more about her, we will share her links in the show notes and let's get going.

Hi Renee. Thank you for being here. I'm so excited to talk to you. Thanks for having me, Linda. I really appreciate it. Oh yes. Oh, thank you. I was listening. I was telling you before we hit record, that I was listening to Kathy Haller's podcast and I heard your husband and his story just resonated with me, and he just seems like an incredible guy and reached out to him and then got connected to you.

And I'm so excited for this conversation. I'd love to hear the Pink Skirt Project. Tell us a little bit about that and how that came to be. Okay. First of all, I've been an entrepreneur for. Probably 25 years now. My first job at 17, my mom told me to go get a job and I thought entrepreneurs don't work a lot and they make a lot of money, so I'm gonna start a restaurant and.

I did, so in the summer seasons with my sister, we had a restaurant for three to four years. And this was like pre-AP days, pre-vis days. So people paid cash. And I would go home at the end of the week with 10 to $15,000 worth of cash rolled up in wads, and we would store it underneath our bed. And at 17 years old, that was pretty significant and I thought this was normal. So I already established this standard for myself really high and I had nothing to compare it to. We worked really hard. I. But I also faced a lot of adversity as an entrepreneur, and I did the whole gamut of things from my undergrad to grad school to traveling.

I had a one year working visa in Australia. I left home when I was like 21 to go and live somewhere with nobody I knew and. Then I started a PR agency two. The first one I ended up shutting down. 'cause the year that I started, it was the same year I had both my children. My boys are 11 months apart.

They're now almost 12 and 13 years old. Nice. And the last agency so I started, I actually, I sold it, which was. Such an incredible, beautiful exit. But in the process of running these companies from the tiny age of 17 to up into my early forties, I noticed the one thing that was like this through line, this common thread amongst all women, is that we often feel defeated, deflated, and shushed.

Were also. Told what success is and we're never really allowed to define it on our own terms, and I really wanted to change that. So I was at this event in Palm Springs in 2019 called the Alt Summit, which is for creatives and entrepreneurs and influencers. And part of the programming were fashion shows by these fashion designers.

And years prior, I had this kind of like clairvoyant download when someone asked me what I thought success was. And it was a picture of me with this bright pink skirt on stage in front of thousands of female entrepreneurs. It was just like, boom, like this lightning. So fast forward to 2019, going back to the ALT summit.

One of the first models I see you run down, walk down the runway, was wearing this pink skirt of my vision. So I double clicked on that, thinking there's meaning in this, what does it mean? I don't know pink for you today. So eventually I did buy the skirt from this designer. Her name is Amanda Perna.

Her label's called House a Perna. It's a very bright, beautiful skirt and it hung in my closet for years. I finally said, you know what, this is something, it's like this symbol of something. And it went from being a, an event to then a mini documentary. And we had a team together, a production company.

We were gonna pitch the production or Netflix and you name it. But something in me said, this isn't a mini documentary. This isn't a series. It's not reality tv. At least not today. But it's a gathering of female entrepreneurs. It's a gathering of women who wanna redefine success on their own terms.

So I'm gonna start with the big event, and I know there'll be more clarity that'll come through during and after this event. And so why the pink skirt? Because it is, it's a symbol that reflects our unity as women in businesses. It's a symbol that reflects the stories of like our trials and tribulations, our successes and failures, and that when women come together, we actually create some pretty magical things.

Yeah. It's also a symbol for armor and like a cape, or almost like a Mary Poppins umbrella. Yeah. And it's super iconic. So we created this event that's happening June 12th in a town called Kelowna, British Columbia on the west coast of Canada, in the mountains, and we are gathering some brilliant people in one room in one day to celebrate everybody.

I. That's amazing. I love it. First question that comes to mind is how does a 17-year-old start a restaurant? Tell me how that works. Yeah, so there was this place that was like a snack bar restaurant that was connected to a gas station. It was like a privately owned gas station. It's like one of those little gas stations that's owned by a mom and pop.

It's the last gas station before you get to like cottage country where I grew up in Northern Ontario and they used to run it. And one year my mom was pumping gas and because we've lived there forever, they've known my parents and they asked my mom, Hey, do you guys wanna take over the lease for this place and run it?

And my mom's like a retired teacher. She's I'm not doing that. And my sister and I perked up. We thought, wait, this can't be that hard. They already have the place established. They have all of the equipment, the tools are there. We don't have to do any renovations. And that's when we learned how to so we took over the lease.

Yeah, we took over the lease for four years. That's when we learned to buy food, how to sell food, price it, make food, hire people, fire people, you name it. That's amazing. And it was as easy as that. So when I believe in God and I believe in timing, the divine timing is like there was this moment where God's Hey, these are actually the people that are ready for this.

So I'm gonna tell the person who runs this gas station to ask. If this is what we wanna do, and we did it. Oh wow. That's so incredible. What kind of transformations do you see happen when women step into a room with the intention to connect and support each other as you have with the pink skirt gather the world's biggest cheerleaders?

So when you think about like hundreds, if not thousands of years ago, women thrived in the sense of community and village. So when a woman had a baby. Hundreds years ago, the village came to help raise the child. Today we put up these four walls and say, oh no, it's only my responsibility and maybe the father can contribute too, or my mom will come and help, or my sister, or we'll get a nanny.

But we've lost the sense of the village, right? We've lost the sense that it's our. All of our responsibility to raise kids, to help women thrive because we know this as a foundation, we know this. Fundamentally, there's research around this that when women are thriving, the whole community comes alive.

Yeah, I always would tell. People that I was programmed, and I think a lot of women were taught to compete and compare, but it's really, the magic is in the opposite because we're all one consciousness and it's my belief anyway, but we're all one. When you help another, you're helping yourself. When you help yourself, you're helping another, I don't know if you have those beliefs, but the reality is when women come together, magic happens.

I have my community worthy and abundant. I just created and it. I've been in so many sister, I've been Kathy Heller's, sisterhoods and all of that, and it's incredible. It's so powerful. Just watching the growth and the healing and the support and the love and the, it's incredible, right? A hundred percent.

Yeah. Women provide, like when women are intentional about that support, it changes everything. I just had one of my good friends, Callen, she's an expert in ai. She's been launching for years, but she really just doubled down on hiring the right people to help her with her launch. And she had the most successful launch to date.

She three x their expectations because she brought the right sisterhood. In community. Yeah. She brought the right cheerleader. I call them my cheerleaders because these are your ride or dies. Yeah. Like you're selling some. They're promoting it. They're not only buying it, they're promoting it and they're buying multiple of it to gift to people.

I, I really wanna change the dialogue around, friends, if we're all in, in a great position to be able to do this. But if you're publishing a book or you have an event and we're buddies. A good friend buys the book, buys the ticket. They don't expect the free book in return. They don't expect.

The free ticket. That's right. A friend supports. Yeah. By buying the ticket. By buying the book. So a good friend. Yes. A good, yeah. But, and I think about it too, it's like friendship isn't necessarily something that you have to have in person, and it does not necessarily mean something that you've had since high school.

So I have friends on Instagram, for example. I've never met in person. And they're the ones promoting my ticket sales Anytime. I'm like, Hey, you gotta buy this water bottle. They're buying it. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've met so many amazing souls through this podcast that I'm friends with, that I, have not met in person.

And I absolutely love, love. They're brilliant, amazing women. So my next question is, you said that you have a gift of recognizing greatness in others. How can women begin to see their own greatness within themselves? I believe everybody knows it. They already know it. They're just caught up in a system, in a dialogue that suppresses a woman's greatness.

Like when you look in the mirror, you like, you talk to yourself. You know what you love to do. You know what you're good at, you know what you wanna do. But then when you. Leave that mirror. You end up walking into a world where you're not allowed to follow your passion. You're not allowed to follow your purpose, or how are you gonna make money around this?

Like I wanna change the conversations around what it means to be successful because we define success as an entrepreneur with people that are making millions of dollars and have crazy profit margins. No. What about the woman who is an entrepreneur because she wants the time with her kids. She wants to set the schedule, and she's making a hundred thousand dollars a year and she's happy.

Exactly. Can't that be, success doesn't have to be millions and millions of dollars, right? It's, yeah. What is, what would be your definition of success? It's a great question. Yeah. And it changes with every season, I also don't wanna poo po the people who don't wanna be entrepreneurs, right? I wanna look at the woman who's an entrepreneur, but is dying to be a stay at home mom, to give her the permission to just do it.

Or the person who is an entrepreneur and wants that nine to five. I've seen a lot of people shift back to getting jobs because they actually needed to ease their nervous system, right? That's right. Why? Why can't that be okay? Why can't like a healthy mind, body, soul be the success? Yeah, it absolutely can.

Yeah, tell us about your podcast. So your podcast is in the top 1% globally, and so what has surprised you the most about hosting the deep conversations with other female founders and when I started it, it was during the pandemic and the world was shut down. So I say it was my therapy and I got to meet and connect so many incredible women.

But what it's become today is really just a way for me to share my thoughts with the hopes of impacting somebody to make even just a half a degree adjustment in their thoughts or beliefs or what they're doing in life. For instance, I just published an episode about triggers, and I've had so many people DM me, they're like, Hey, this was my trigger and now I see it.

Yeah. And picture a world where we're less triggered. Exactly. Because anytime we have a negative comment or we're honking at someone because they're tailgating us, it's because we're triggered by the person or the event. And if we can learn to recognize those triggers when they happen, then the better we can work on them.

So what I learned in doing a podcast was that we all have stories to share. We all have something significant to help. Impact other people. My vessel is the podcast. I also know that it's hell of a lot more work and a hell of a lot more expensive than I anticipated, but we're at episode like 360 7 today or something.

The biggest thing too. Which was we call it the pink skirt moment. Yeah. Through the Pink Skirt project. Like the holy crap I made it was when my first really nervous ask for a guest was Gabby Reese. So she was she's a pro beach, former pro beach volleyball player slash model.

I had posters of her up in my bedroom when I was a kid. And so one day I just finally built up the nerve to ask her to be a guest on my show. Thinking she's not gonna see it, she's gonna ignore it or pass. And she said, yep, let's do it. Connect with so and we'll make it happen. That was when you have those like hockey stick self I know.

Self confidence boost. And nobody gave you money. It wasn't even in, no money was involved. I'm just saying. And you were like over the top that was it. And I, went down the phone, I was like, what just happened? That's exciting. But then it's like that excitement, short-lived, big dopamine hit.

Then it was the Holy F. Now I gotta interview her, right? So when the screen opened up and it was her face there and she was talking to me, I was so nervous. But then after about 10 minutes, it, we all got comfortable. I learned so much about understanding that, these people that are influencers or these people that we admire so deeply are just still humans.

Yeah. They're just normal. They're still humans. Yeah. And I got to learn to just to just be calm when talking with these brilliant people and just know, actually the biggest lesson in all this too was learning that. People that are emotionally intelligent, that are there for the right reason, want you in the room, not because of what you do, but because of who you are.

And those people are so quick, you can suss them out energetically, because they don't, they're not transactional friendships, they're transformational. Meaning I see you, I know what you're working on. How would I make this introduction? Or can I buy an extra ticket? It's the people who actually wanna see you thrive.

I love what you're saying. I've been studying Kabbalah recently and I. The givers are the winner. The givers are literally like if you go into a room and you're in there what can I get from here? That is not the energy that's gonna expand your vessel. That is not the energy that's gonna, make you a receiver of, or level up.

So I just love it's what can I give and Exactly. And then also just becoming the observer of your life. Like you mentioned the trigger. There's always a treasure in the trigger and like it ha For me, I was someone that held on to everything. So if I was triggered, I would carry that around.

Where today, like I had a text from an ax. It's a long story. And he sent something and it was, there was a slight trigger, but then it's it's not about me. So it's just so interesting. I just love all of that and what you said about, authentic people and you can tell, you can absolutely tell.

Let's see. I have a couple questions lined up for you. There's something I wanna add to this too that was Sure, of course. One of the bigger lessons learned in podcasting and having incredible conversations. 'cause I've interviewed. Some people that I just, I admire so much. Yeah. Like Amy Porterfield and Lori, harder, Jen Gottlieb, Danielle LaPorte, like just incredible souls.

And what I realized is my purpose in life that came, which is so simple, yet so complicated, is my goal is to make every room a better place because I was there. So every room I enter, whether I have a conversation or not, is fundamentally a better room because I was in it. I can imagine everybody had that mindset.

It's Hey, you know what? That room right there, I gonna go and say hi. I'm gonna introduce myself, or I'm gonna help that person do little things. These micro moments are such a great opportunity to just make energetically every room a better place. I love that. Is there ever a time though, where you walk out of the room where you feel like any kind of, do you have where you have to protect your energy ever?

Or do you have any I'm just curious. Yeah, we're. Dan and I get invited to a lot of stuff. So we're both in a season of, no, I am very sensitive, so especially to energies and I can get depleted very fast. I could be on an elevator for three seconds with somebody. That's just not the right energy and we don't even have to say anything.

Me, so socially, like energetically, it can drain me so easily. I know the people, if I have to actually try really hard to feel accepted by somebody is an instant no for me. Yeah, same. I love that. An instant. No. Yeah, and you think about that in life and business. It could be best friends, it could be somebody you're married to, it could be family, and it's like time for hard conversations, or it's time to just not have them in your life as much as they would want.

Exactly. No, it's true. I love what you said. You guys are in a season of, no. That's so powerful that, when you create space, like that's how you bring the things you do want, right? Yeah. We're, we have. So many great friends, and I think these next two years for us is really about going deeper with the friends we already have and just like supporting them and sharing stories and sharing life together.

Like we have a little group of families we love traveling with because their kids get along and the parents are cool and so nice and our values are similar. That's where we're at our season of. No, that's so beautiful. You're so blessed. What traits do you see in the most successful women that you interview?

Are there common themes that come together? They're gracious. It's my favorite quote by Stevie Nicks. She says, if you're gracious, you've already won the game. And I look at women like Michelle Obama even Stevie Nicks herself. But the women that are just so confident but not cocky and just gracious, like they give you the time of day and it's not because of their status it's.

They're just incredible people and the best leaders are gracious. Yeah, they're patient, they're kind there's no reason to be arrogant or cocky or anything because of some pedestal that you might be on. We don't have time for that. And I don't know too many people that respect that. Anyway, so the most successful people are gracious.

I agree with you a hundred percent. A hundred percent. And if you want to succeed in life and business, honesty and authenticity is the way, in my opinion. Is that right? We talked about what success looks like for you right now, and then I was gonna ask you how you navigate motherhood business and ambition without losing yourself in the process.

I already lost myself. I'm in the process of finding her again. Yeah. I love the name of the, she's been bound. Yeah. I love the name of the podcast. Tell us about that. Yeah. So the mother thing. What helped me get to like next level was really, we hired a house manager and we've had somebody full-time with us now over four years, and Betty particularly, who's been with us now, my gosh, has it been four years?

So we've had somebody for five years. It's like I grew up in a house where mom did everything and I had a beautiful childhood and my mom is amazing. She is like the best mom. But also I came with the conditioning that, and the expectations that I was to do it all too. And I found myself, my dream was to do this thing as an entrepreneur and to write a book and lead.

It wasn't to be with my kids all the time. It wasn't to cook, it wasn't to do that stuff. But there was this intense guilt that I wasn't doing it. So when I, we hired this house manager, it took years for me to be okay with it. And now I am. And honestly used to care if people thought that I was lazy because I wasn't doing it or a terrible mother.

Now I don't care at all. Like people have their own opinions on me. Remember talking about triggers, it has nothing to do with me. Everything to do with them. Yeah. How I balance mother motherhood is I have the help, and lemme tell you, I get more quality time with my kids now than ever before because of it.

And I was just at a colleague. I also have a real estate background and she was looking to hire a house manager and I'm like, oh, what are they doing? Like laundry dishes, this? And I'm like, okay. So when you said house manager, I'm like, I know what that is. So you went to college, you mentioned that.

Tell us what did you get your degree in and all that? I got my really expensive, useless degree in business in sociology. Everything I learned about business was in operating a business. Real life. Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Yep. And then, and the thing about college. Yeah. And then the podcast name into the wild. I just love the name.

Tell us a little bit about why you Yeah. We actually named our first big boat into the wild thing about it. If you're getting on your boat and you're gonna go sail in the ocean, it's it's unpredictable. So like even like packing a bag and going into the jungle or to a forest, it's unpredictable and into the wild is all about that unpredictability, but you wanna do it anyway.

Motivation and starting a business or in parenting. But the one question I ask every guest on my show at the end is, what does it mean to be a wild woman? And the most common word is to be unapologetically yourself. And so the wild is so important because it's about no apologies, and it also means like going to do something that's a little bit risky and crazy, but also beautiful.

Yeah. It's freedom. Yeah. It's freedom. I love it. Let's see. When you're not leading, speaking or investing, how do you recharge your soul? Sleep, read, go for hikes with my dog. I love both of those. Working out is huge too, but also just like connecting with friends. Yeah, I love, I used to do a lot, like I used to do drumming and I love taking drum lessons.

I'd go twice a week. That was huge for me in a crazy season for us. But next year we're planning to world School, so we're actually getting on a plane with our kids and we're traveling the world. Oh, wow. That's amazing. I love that. It's, I'm, I did some substitute teaching and I always wanted to be a teacher.

It's whole story, but I totally get the homeschooling. If you can do it, I highly recommend, especially since they, you have two, it's not like you have one and they need to be socialized or something, and the Yeah, too. And they don't get along all the time, so sometimes it's more about putting out fires and fights than it is about actually schooling.

Yeah. So what's a quote or mantra that you love to live by? The, if you're gracious, you've already won The game is a big one for me. But the other one that I live by is consistency is your currency. I gotta write that one down. Consistency. I love that. You wanna make more money, you wanna lose the weight, you wanna get stronger.

You wanna find the love of your life. It's all about daily deposits and that's, it's even pushing through when it gets boring or exhausting or monotonous. Mundane. It's like that extra mile they say is never crowded for a reason. 'cause people aren't willing to go there. That's the masculine, the discipline.

Yep. That's, yep. I was gonna say, what is it like living with your hus? Being with Dan Markel he's incredible. Yeah. We've been together for 15 years, so yes, the growth is crazy. We, I don't know. We built a beautiful life together and I think a lot of both of our success individually have to do with us supporting each other.

I. Being each other's biggest cheerleader. He always operates on like octane level a million and level 30 in life. I'm on like level two and I think that balance is beautiful. Level two, oh, I dunno what kind of stat. One to 10. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Outta 30. Outta 30. I could be out of a hundred, but he is.

Very much into lots of conversation, lots of people and needs to be out and doing stuff, and that's how he recharges. I'm like homebody home alone. Maybe with my dog having a cup of coffee with my kids. That's how I recharge. I love that I'm all about my dog walking in nature. Like people wanna go to happy hour and I'm like, that's my time to go to the dog park.

I live in Florida so it's really hot now. So we're going later and later to the dog park 'cause it's just too hot to take him. But. I like, I just, I'm all about sleep too. I go to bed so early now lately. It's incredible. Okay, if your pink skirt could talk, what would it say about your journey? What would oh, that's cute.

I like that. Yeah. Yeah. The pink skirt would say, wow, we've made it this far. Why don't we just keep going? That's what she would say. Yeah. I love it. I was looking at your site and on the site it says, let me see if I can find it. The pink skirt represents female founders as stories, dreams, trial, successes, experiences, and the light in each of us.

The skirt connects us all. So beautiful. And then what about your morning? Is there a non-negotiable in your morning routine? Yeah, we just did a month in Austin, Texas. It was, part of it was testing the homeschooling thing while we were away, and which it's very different than when we're, so right now my kids are, we're back home.

They're in their public school thing. It's get up and go. I get up breakfast pack bags, gotta catch the bus on time and it, the energy's different. And I found myself. Austin, because we had nowhere to be. It was like that. I didn't follow my routine. So when I don't follow my morning routine, it like I lose track of the day.

But here, back home, it's up at five or five 30. I wake up and my body wakes up. There's no alarm, and immediately have water. And a little bite of banana or something. And then I have my coffee. I do, five to 10 minutes with the five minute journal. I read. I check my dms in social media. 'cause we get a lot of requests about the event and podcasting stuff.

Make the boys their breakfast and then I'm like full mom mode. And then usually gym, shower, then I come down to the studio. Yeah, you have a home gym. Yeah, but I, we rarely work out there. That's like we have a last minute thing. I go to a gym. I have a personal trainer. I also love doing CrossFit.

Nice. Nice. It depends on my mood. I can tell you're in amazing shape. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. So what's one thing every woman listening to this podcast today, if she's doubting her dream in her voice, like what's one thing you would recommend? Find somebody who's already done it successfully before and.

Bye. Follow them, ask them questions, ask to hop on a call. 'cause we, a lot of times we face this res resistance in starting something or growing something because we just don't know what to expect. And my husband calls it the ceiling of complexity where we allow ourselves to get to this point of complexity where we just keep butting up against the ceiling and it stops you from doing the things that you really wanna do.

Yeah, the best thing you can do is have a conversation with somebody who's already done it. 'cause they'll give you hopefully what it really feels like. Yeah. Yeah. I feel fear and self-doubt are the biggest dream killers. Yeah. Yeah. Self-doubt is huge for women, but fear is I find that people that are most successful in anything that they do from doing Ironmans or marathons to starting a podcast, to launching a business.

Always teeter on the brink of super, much like super fear. Like this event, for instance, 350 people in a room. My first event, it wasn't 20, it didn't start with 30 or 50. I went into this space. I had to have it at this one location. I. Something was like, it's gotta be here. And then when I asked the lady who's the building manager, what is the seating capacitor seating capacity, theater style, she's like 350.

And I said, great. That's how many tickets I'm gonna sell. Yeah. That's amazing. Not knowing that ain't easy. Hey, running event is tough. Yeah. You've done it before, so this one that's coming up, not this big. Oh, okay. Yeah. I've hosted like little retreats but nothing like this. Oh, that's exciting.

And it's last June 12th. June 12th. Kelowna, bc We call this Kelowna because it's like the MIDI California up here. Wow. If you could go back in time and whisper one sentence into your own ear before launching your business, your first business, what would you say? Hire the right people and hire sooner than you think. Delegate, the biggest thing for me being able to sell my last agency hands down was because I hired an assistant. Nice. The person who loves to do all the things, I don't. Oh, I know. Yeah. So much with this podcasting that I don't wanna do or the Yes.

Me and the marketing and all the things. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about, so here's a couple rapid fire questions. So is it coffee or matcha? Oh, coffee for sure. And what book changed your life?

The Big Leap was one of them, for sure. Nice. Gay Hendricks. What about dream travel destination? The Maldives and Vietnam. Wow. Have you been? Nope. Okay. Not yet. Oh yeah. And then a mantra you're loving right now. You said the gracious. Yeah. If you're gracious, you've already won the game. Yeah, I love it.

And then morning ritual or evening ritual? Both. Me too. What's your evening ritual look like? It's our 4, 3, 2, 1 ritual. So four hours before bed? No, like highly sensitive, triggered emotional conversations. Like my husband is not allowed to say we need to talk about this right now. 'cause I hang on to these things.

Three hours before bed, no food. Two hours before bed, no electronics. One hour be fed before bed. No. Fluids. Then you have a good night's sleep. Oh, that's incredible. I love all of those. Something you just said made me have a question pop in. So four hours before bed. Oh, no. Deep conversations.

Three hours before bed. You are not eating, no eating food. Yep. Two hours before bed. No liquids or was it one of No electronics. Oh, electronics. Yeah. That's very powerful. So that you can sleep well. Yeah. People don't realize it's hard to sleep and if I am gonna be on my phone or something.

Definitely wearing blue light blockers. Oh, that's good too. When's your birthday? I'm sorry. August 20th. Are you a Leo? I am a Leo. Oh, okay. Yeah, Aries. That's why we must, there's some kind of similarities, the fire. Yeah. Both my kids are also Leos. Oh, are they? What's Dan? I always forget this one.

He's a December baby. Is it Sagittarius? I think it's Sagittarius, yeah. Oh, okay. Do you believe in that stuff, astrology? Oh yeah, of course I did. Carto. Wait, astrocartography. So I had a little session and just understand my, all that stuff. It was fascinating. It's so fascinating. Yeah. It's so fascinating.

That was one of the girls that I met through the podcast. She's an astrologer and she's just brilliant. And she did my reading and it was just incredible. And then the human design. What are you in? Human design. A oh my gosh. This is also a question I get asked. A generator. Generator. That's what I am.

Yeah, probably. Yeah, generator. Awesome. Is there anything else you wanna share? We will put the links to everything in the show notes. Is there anything else you'd love to share with the audience? We have a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of women listening that have podcasts and have families, different things.

So they have their own podcasts. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's just, to get to where you are in anything in life, but especially podcasting is just putting in the reps, staying consistent. When I first started mine, I remember this was off the heels of attending that alt summit where I saw the pink skirt and I went to a session about podcasting.

The lady said, here's a fun statistic for you. Most podcasts don't make it past eight episodes. So I said, I'm gonna launch with nine and I'll defy the odd. Yeah, and that was the right energy to show up with because there had been moments during these last five years that were crazy, like my right hand woman.

She did everything for me, for like writing the emails, copies, all the social. I just had to show up in an interview or record. And one day she gets back from a summer holiday and she wasn't feeling well, goes to the doctor and she was diagnosed with the brain tumor and she goes, I can't do any of my work.

I gotta stop right away. And she was working like. I don't know, 30 hours a week for me. So now all of a sudden I had to absorb all that. So that was pretty much the only time we took a little pause and it happened to be in the summertime, but I just didn't wanna my force myself into doing it and not have great quality.

It's just showing up and you're gonna have some episodes that are crap and you're like, I don't like it. Just keep going. Just keep going. Yeah, because most people don't go back more than a handful of episodes anyway. Yeah, I had some amazing guests as well. Like Kathleen Cameron. Do you know her? I.

So you'll have to google her. So she's she was a nurse and now she's she studied under bad Proctor. So now she's this huge like manifestation multimillions of dollars. Like somebody wanna follow on, YouTube, I, she's amazing. She is a beautiful soul. She's doing amazing stuff, helping people.

Tracy Lit, you probably don't know, but she's friends with Kathy. Yeah, she was on my show. Oh, you had Tracy Lit? Yeah. I love her so much. In love with her. I went to Palm Beach, Florida and met her and did one of her events. And then Eric Vigar, who's the personal trainer for Kathleen Cameron, he was on, he's a spiritual coach and author and all that.

Have you written a book or any I haven't written that. I did. I co-authored a book, but I am writing a book. You did write a book. What book is your, what's your book called? It's called Get Covered. It was all about public relations. It's a world I'm not in anymore. Oh, okay. They published it in 2017 or 18.

My gosh. So it's been a while. Wait, 2018, I think you've done so much. What what do you what is next for you? Just your legacy? What do you hope to leave? My legacy is like when, when someone hears about me, even long. After I'm gone. It's about hope and it's about possibility, especially for women.

So the Pink Skirt project, I know this is, I was expected to create like a five-year plan and have a detailed p and l and understand like what this means. I believe that the event that's coming up, 'cause it's our inaugural event, is going to be the thing that gives me. A direction as to what this is, and there's been a lot of really cool things that have come up because of it.

I haven't have it fully defined yet. Is it a community, is it an, it's more than just an event. It's like a movement. I've had people send me pictures in their pink skirt saying I'm having a pink skirt day. I. I'm going in to meetings with a bunch of male investors and I need to feel empowered. So I'm putting on my pink skirt 'cause it acts like an like armor or like cape.

And I'm like, okay, I will figure it out. So this is what's next and bringing my podcast to the next level. Yeah. That's amazing. I love it. So beautiful. So good to meet you. So happy to meet you. Yeah, you too. Thank you. Yes. So good. I will send you all the links and I'm hoping to get this out very soon actually.

Yeah, you have I in a few weeks. Pardon? I love it. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah. The event's coming up in three weeks maybe. Still some spots left, right? Yes, there are a handful of spots left. Okay, good. It's crunch time. Awesome. Good luck with it. I know it's gonna be absolutely amazing. I saw some of the speakers, Jen Gottlieb, Dan Martel, Jillian Harris, Lori Harder Anna Lozano.

So these people have. They're just, they've done so much in their own space that they just need to come and be on that stage. And we, it's not only just a day of listening to speakers, it's a day of connection. It's entertainment too. Like the future vision of these events is like the Silk Dsle meets a business summit for women.

Yeah. So it's just about being in awe about everything that's happening. Do you know who Gina Devy is? I don't know if you know her, but she, so she wrote a book called The Audacity to Be Queen, and I attended her event in Miami in 2021, and that's when I changed my whole life and moved across the country.

I was in Michigan my whole entire life until I. Three years ago, and I was at her event and I hired a coach on the spot there and she helped. She was supposed to help me build my coaching business, but it was more of like a support for the whole move across the country with my dog. My son was graduating college.

It's a whole story. Everything lined up for me. The universe lined up for me. I similarly you got this divine message saying, I belonged in Florida when I was washing my hands the final night of this three day workshop. And it's I tell this story because when you go into those spaces, like that thing that you're ho this, the speakers, you always make connections.

You al you pick up a client like the woman I hired on the spot, Dr. Michelle Bar. She's been on the show twice. She's on Fox Two News. I said to her. I said to her, do you always get clients at these events? And she's always, oh, wow. She goes and invests in herself and goes to these, puts herself in these spaces and places, and she picks up clients.

So just that's we know these things happen. Yeah. That's it. And that's what this, the space is for, is to have women just come and feel empowered, but also like it's. It's about that community. Yeah. It's about going in there and being okay asking the question that scare you. Then also just connecting with women around something like this massive block in your life.

Yes. And it's like I always say, you wanna be like, my son played hockey for many years and his dad would always say, you gotta play with better players. Better players. And I didn't quite understand. And now of course I totally understand, like you wanna get in the room with people that are doing more, and I'm moving my real estate license over to, the woman that's got the house manager to her company. So it's like you wanna hang out with the people that are doing what you know. So I appreciate you and you sharing your time and your wisdom, all of that with us. So thank you for there is a is saying about all that if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.

Exactly right. You level up that room. Exactly. Amazing. Thank you so much. I enjoyed talking to you and getting to know you and hearing your story. So thanks. Thanks for having me, Linda. You're so welcome.